About the Innovating Music Podcast

Innovating Music Podcast: Unlocking the Future of the Music Industry with Rethink Next and Dr. Gigi Johnson

 

The Innovating Music podcast, now proudly produced by Rethink Next, is your essential resource for understanding how innovation and technology are reshaping the global music industry. Hosted by Dr. Gigi Johnson, founder of Rethink Next and former faculty member at the UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music, this series continues its impactful journey that began at UCLA, now with an expanded focus on actionable insights for the future of music.

Dr. Johnson, who has led this podcast for over five years, dives into the challenges and opportunities facing artists, music professionals, and creative entrepreneurs in an era of rapid digital transformation. Our in-depth conversations provide strategic thinking on core themes vital to the future of music:

  • Music Technology and AI: Explore groundbreaking advancements like AI-powered audio and video editing with tools such as Descript and music data management and automated tagging with companies like Museo. We analyze how AI is being used for automated mastering (e.g., LANDR) and the complex world of streaming fraud detection (e.g., Beatdapp). The podcast also touches upon the impact of smart speakers and 3D spatial audio (e.g., Mach 1) on listening habits and immersive experiences.
  • Blockchain in Music: Understand the potential of decentralized technologies for transparent royalty payments, alternative artist funding (e.g., selling “artist coins”), and innovative ticketing solutions (e.g., Hello to Goy). Learn about pioneering companies like Ujo Music, JAAK, Resonate, and Benji Rogers’ .blockchain music, and the broader concept of blockchain as a “social movement disguised as technology”.
  • The Evolving Live Music Landscape: Discover how live performances and mass gatherings are adapting to new realities, from the pivot to live streaming (e.g., Bandsintown’s shift during the pandemic) to the intricate logistics of touring (e.g., Eventric’s Master Tour, which centralizes tour data and operations for its users). We also examine the vital role of music cities in fostering local music ecosystems amidst challenges like venue closures and gentrification. New creative and technical talents for live production are also discussed.
  • Artist Empowerment and Business Models: Gain insights into how independent artists are monetizing their music through direct-to-fan platforms (e.g., CD Baby, which helps nearly half a million artists with distribution and monetization), navigating complex digital marketplaces, and addressing issues like the “messy” state of music data. Learn about the legal implications of music innovation (e.g., contracts, intellectual property, managing co-creation agreements) and strategies for building a sustainable music career in a multi-platform world, including leveraging content marketing and strategic partnerships.
  • Global Music Markets and Cultural Exchange: Our discussions span international markets, including the unique challenges and opportunities in China (e.g., building value for recorded music from a history of piracy, metadata challenges, and new consumption patterns) and Latin America (e.g., high mobile and video usage, cultural crossover, and pricing strategies). We also delve into the critical role of legal lyric translation in bridging cultures and increasing music discoverability worldwide (e.g., LyricFind).

The “Innovating Music” podcast, now at home with Rethink Next, is designed for anyone passionate about where music is headed. Whether you’re interested in music business, music technology, artist development, intellectual property, digital marketing, cultural policy, or live event production, our conversations offer unparalleled insights into the forces driving change.

Join Dr. Gigi Johnson and a diverse array of guests—from seasoned industry veterans and creative lawyers to groundbreaking startups and global innovators—as we uncover the trends, discuss the frictions, and highlight the bold solutions that are shaping the future of music.

Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or explore our extensive archive of episodes. Learn more about Rethink Next, its programs, and Dr. Gigi Johnson’s ongoing work at RethinkNext.com.

Episodes

Data-Driven Touring Insights

How can artists and managers use all the streaming and touring information to plan their markets and concerts better? Rossanna and Efrain from Cayo5 joined us to talk about how their are working to help artists manage disparate data sets to make decisions about where...

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An Artist from Thin Air Artist as Code

Elodie, Paco, and the team at Neweb Labs in Montreal have created Maya Kodes -- from code. She's not just a new girl group -- she is a new girl. Maya is a fully scripted and created hologram in performance, based on a set of technology used to bring her to live...

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Love, Passion, and Hard Work

This episode lends more philosophically humanist than some of our more technical sessions. David Hernandez of Colonize Media preaches "love, passion, and hard work" in an online video and data-driven marketing world. In a world of tranformative tools and distribution...

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The Challenge of Unasked Questions

Refik drives new combinations of music, architecture, technology, and design forward, always asking "unasked questions." In this podcast, he discusses many of his projects, where he is exploring "alternative reality . . how to live without bias in our reality." He...

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Combining Unrelated Ideas as Music Innovation

Dmitri Vietze, CEO of Rock Paper Scissors and StoryAmp, joins us to share stories of how new combinations of unrelated ideas create innovation in music. Our conversation ranges from his own background in activism, ways to unlock new businesses, the slow/fast dynamics...

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Solving Intractable Problems

Matt, founder of MetaPop, shares his perspectives on innovation as solving intractable problems, versus creative disruption. Guest: Matt Adell, MetaPop, Native Instruments Matt is Founder & CEO of MetaPop, and now is head of digital for Native Instruments. Previously,...

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Life as a Data Nerd Dancing with Music Data

Dae brings us his adventures from the start-up world. He shares his observations from living as a self-described "data nerd" while creating new business solutions in music tech as a "non-tech person." He talkes at length about data and issues like "choreography"...

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Transforming Music through Data

Alex White has put together puzzle pieces to connect music and data, building Next Big Sound over the past six years and selling it to Pandora. He shared similarities between business-to-business (B2B) sales in music and other industries.  He also shared what he sees...

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Beyond Vinyl Ceremony and Next Tech with Beatie Wolfe

Beyond Vinyl Ceremony and Next Tech with Beatie Wolfe

Singer-songwriter Beatie Wolfe is redefining music’s role in the digital age. Blending storytelling, creative technology, and ritual, Wolfe has pioneered projects like the world’s first 3D interactive album app, an NFC-enabled card deck, and a “musical jacket” woven...

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