Jesse Elliott helped create The Music District to support and work with music ecosystems in Ft. Collins, CO. He shares his earlier work with Richard Florida, his journey as a musician and a creative community organizer. Jesse shares the challenges and unique pilots...
Innovating Music
Innovating Music, hosted by Dr. Gigi Johnson, has spent years delving into the profound changes shaping the music industry from 2016 to 2023. We’ve explored how technology and social shifts impact music lives, collaborations, and distribution.
For anyone interested in music industry careers and understanding change our archive offers invaluable insights, especially regarding major streaming platforms like Spotify and Apple Music.
Discover:
- How artists grow their careers by engaging with the marketplace and distributing music worldwide, including insights into balancing passion with business.
- The critical role of playlist curation (both human-curated and algorithmic) in music discovery and promotion on platforms like Spotify and Apple Music, and how to gain traction.
- The use of data from Spotify for Artists, Apple for Artists, and other services to understand listeners and drive strategy, emphasizing the value of transparency in where content travels online.
- Discussions on monetization, licensing, and managing intellectual property in the evolving streaming era, including new approaches to getting money to artists.
- Insights into how companies are tackling challenges like messy music data and streaming manipulation using AI and blockchain, and building platforms for artists to showcase creativity without licensing complexities.
- The evolution of platforms, from early streaming companies and iTunes to the rise of new content formats like short-form video and the creation of new genres. The podcast also covers how Spotify has impacted the industry.
While the Innovating Music podcast is currently on hiatus, we invite you to dig through our extensive archive to gain a deeper understanding of the music industry’s past and present. Our episodes capture the insights of the main professionals helping steer and make sense of these transformative changes.
Interested in continuing to explore these themes of music industry careers and innovation? We invite you to explore Rethink Next programs and events for future opportunities and conversations.
Your Host: Dr. Gigi Johnson
Dr. Gigi Johnson designs futures programs that help creators and organizations navigate AI-driven change. Through Rethink Next, she builds experiences and labs that blend systems thinking, creative practice, and agentic AI. She ran the UCLA Center for Music Innovation and co-founded the global virtual conference series Amplify Music. Earlier, she produced media foresight programs while teaching MBAs and executives at UCLA Anderson, after financing media-sector M&A at Bank of America.

Episodes
Recording, Live, Virtual, and Augmenting Experiences with Roman Rappak
Roman Rappak is forging ahead on two parallel tracks -- creating recorded music for traditional channels and creating new systems to create mixed reality experience with the same music in live environments. Enjoy this episode where he talks about what drives him on...
From a Sketch to an App to Change How We Sing with Andrew Goren, Harmony Helper
Andrew Goren at 20 has built Harmony Helper, a newly launched app, from his own experiences and observations in the live stage rehearsal and audition environment. He has built his undergraduate program around this work, and brought together a team of professionals to...
Enjoying the Path Violin to Bass to One-Stop Shop CEO with Kristen Agee, 411 Music Group
Kristen Agee has made her way from classical violin in Oklahoma to touring and studio bass to . . . CEO of a production music, publishing, and custom music company. She has built a one-stop shop and has learned a lot along the way. She shares the power of Asking,...
Create and Collaborate in the Palm of Your Hand with Omid Rahmat, Tully Labs
Omid Rahmat came into the music business from the tech and app world in order to solve music creation workflow problems with Joyner Lucas and Dhruv Joshi -- and now solves them for more than 350,000 creators through the Tully App. He talks in this podcast episode...
From Piano and Beach Blanket Babylon to Pokémon A Musical Journey with Ed Goldfarb
Ed Goldfarb sees and hears differently. Where you and I might be just talking, he is hearing background music and seeing the notes in a manuscript. Ed shares with us his journey from professionally accompanying performances as a youth to creating live music for years...
Art of Mass Gatherings with Matthew Ché Kowal
Matthew Ché Kowal is innovative in looking at a very specific set of overlaps in music. He has parlayed his experience in running festivals focusing on sustainability into work focused on mass gatherings. What can emergency workers learn from music festivals? What can...
Artificial Intelligence Messy Music Data with Hazel Savage, Musiio
Hazel Savage and her co-founder Aron Pettersson have built Musiio in Singapore to bring artificial intelligence to the messy large data sets of the music industry. She shares her own past in retail and streaming music in the UK and Australia, then shares how and why...
Music Cities Connecting Stories of Music Lives with Don Pitts and Peter Schwarz
Don and Peter shared their experience performing music ecosystem audits for four cities. The 2015 Austin Music Census and their continuing studies of Charlotte, Pittsburgh, and Washington DC are more than doing a venue count. They gather the personal, qualitative...